# Founder Mode or Manager Mode? I think neither. > My "hot take" on the founder mode or manager mode debate. Source: https://curiouslychase.com/posts/founder-mode-or-manager-mode-i-think-neither/ > [!info] > In a new AI landscape, I think we're in [a totally new paradigm on the founder/maker/manager schedule](https://curiouslychase.com/future-of-work/the-new-maker-schedule-isnt-about-making/). In Slack, one of my teammate ([Jules Lajeskie](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlajeskie?miniProfileUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_miniProfile%3AACoAABUu4D8BeYHb6jz9LyU7b0uHVWhxYvjT-4k)) asked about my take on founder mode vs manager mode [^1]: > _"I patiently await your hot take on the founder mode vs manager mode debate!"_ As with any _debate_, It's a dichotomy so with me, it's always that "there's a third way"! I also don't know if I'm doing a "good job" as a founder. In fact, I think from an executive perspective, I know I can do better ([so much so that I wrote about it last week](https://news.curiouslychase.com/p/a-step-by-step-guide-in-how-to-faill) and have been talking about it with Aaron, my co-founder). I _also_ don't think I'm the kind of person who wants to grow to a 2000 person company. I want to have a quiet company where everyone feels like their needs are more than met and we're still making the impact we want to make in the world. I think clear **purpose,** clear **decision rights** and everyone is an **infinite player** is the mode that I want to play in. I don't know what mode that puts me in. Jules suggested "Player-Coach Mode". That feels right. 🤘Chase [^1]: Paul Graham recently published [Founder Mode](https://paulgraham.com/foundermode.html)